Tuesday, May 17, 2011

Marine Killed In Arizona

LCpl. Jose Guerena

By Semperpapa

United States Marine LCpl. Jose Guerena was killed in Tucson, Arizona, last Thursday morning. A two-deployments Veteran of the Iraq War, Guerena was killed when officers of the Sheriff Department of Pima County raided his home and shot him 70 times.

I started following this case since it first appeared on the Internet, because it did not make the national news.

My tendency is to first give the law enforcement officers the benefit of the doubt, as I know first hand the level of pressure that is inherent with the job and the evil they encounter on a daily basis.

What made this case peek my interest was the fact that the Sheriff Office keeps on changing the story. Initially the situation developed when the SWAT team raided the home where Guerena lived with his wife and 4-year-old son. According to Vanessa Guerena, wife of Jose, she woke her husband up when she noticed the shadow of a man with a gun through one of the home window. Her testimony is that Jose told her to hide with the child in a bathroom closet while he grabbed his AR-15 rifle and checked what they thought may be an attempt at a home invasion and robbery (we must consider the location of the raid, Tucson, where illegal aliens home invasions are not rare).

As the SWAT officers broke down the door they found Jose crouching with his rifle and started to shoot. 70 shots later, Guerena was down. Vanessa also contends that the officers pulled her and her child out of the home while her husband was still alive in the front room, and yet it took one hour for paramedics to be allowed to enter the home and tend to Jose.

If this was not suspicious enough, Vanessa Guerena also states that the Sheriff Deputies never identified themselves as such before breaking down the door, while s spokesman for the Sheriff had stated that the raid had been conducted with marked patrol cars, lights and sirens.

Why is this suspicious? Mostly because the story keeps on changing. Initially it was stated that Jose fired first, than it was found that while his weapon had a chambered round it was still on safe. And the fact that a SWAT raid for alleged narcotics violations would be conducted with “lights and sirens” on is against every police protocol I have heard of in the past for such type of operations.

The Sheriff’s Office also stated that the search of the home netted some evidences of narco conspiracy, but all evidences have been sealed after the action, including the warrant information, which all smells of cover up and leaves me with painful ambiguity.

If all the evidences of the raid substantiate the actions of the SWAT unit, the public should be allowed to clearly see them to show that Jose Guerena represented the risk that warranted his killing. Keeping everything hidden, considering that Jose had a honored service record and no criminal record whatsoever, brings up painful questions. Did the officers have the wrong house? Were they predisposed to their conduct by whom Jose was? Did they overreact and are now hiding the facts?

The answers to these questions may never be fully found, but the fact that the deputies are from the ranks of Sheriff Dupnik, makes the situation even harder to digest. Who is Dupnik, for those who may not remember? Dupnik is the character that achieved national notoriety, at least his fifteen minutes of infamy, in the aftermath of the shooting last January in Tucson that left six people dead and House Rep. Gabrielle Giffords wounded. Dupnik is one of those political hacks who took advantage of that situation to advance his liberal agenda for the subversion of the First and Second Amendment of the Constitution.

In following this tragic story, my thoughts went straight to the report that Janet Napolitano and the Department of Homeland Security put out in 2009 identifying as a domestic terrorist source, returning right wing war Veterans that may have hostility toward the government. Did such mentality on the part of the government paint a huge target on the back of Jose Guerena?

This appears to be a case in desperate need of independent investigation, but as of today, no word has been uttered by either the ACLU or the Justice Department. Not that I expected anything from either source as Jose Guerena did not fit the protected section of the population: he was not black nor a Muslim.

The raid that cost the life of Jose Guerena is a stark contrast with the cultural sensitivity that federal agents demonstrated in raiding a Florida mosque to arrest one Hafiz Muhammed Sher Ali Khan, the mosque imam who is under federal indictment for providing financial support to al Qaeda. Under the new rules of engagement for federal agents, rules instituted by the Obama regime to demonstrate cultural sensibility toward Muslims, the officers waited for prayer time to be over and even removed their shoes as they entered the mosque to execute the arrest warrant. Amazing how culturally sensitive we are required to be in the handling of Islamic terrorists all the while not even consider human sensibility when dealing with a young man who also happen to be a Marine War Veteran.

Our country is truly in a world of hurt!

Just my thoughts!

14 comments:

  1. I agree, heads should roll on this, the sheriff for one

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  2. There should be video from the cops like that of the cops killing the man in Utah, check out know knock search warrant cops killing

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  3. "Anonymous" (I wish you would at least give me a first name)
    I am allowing this response of your because I want to give you a chance to clarify the statement you made. Please let us know what man in Utah you are talking about.
    Thanks
    SP Out!

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  4. Obviously, the Arizona SWAT team does not have ROE (Rules of Engagement). In the combat zones I served I was told exactly what I was allowed to do and not do.

    Arizona SWAT have an open licensee to kill without being held responsible for their actions. IF we did this in Iraq or Afgan, we would be serving life under UMCJ.

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  5. Anonymous #2 (please give me a first name!)
    Sounds like you are a member of our Armed Forces and I want to thank you for your service.
    Your point is very well taken. It is astounding that in war our Military has all these rules and regulations to follow, lest our government would throw the book at you, while it looks like certain LO agencies are not bound by the same ROE. And I am not making a general case, just that in the instance of Dupnik and his agency, sure looks like a former Marine, combat Veteran, was clearly marked as target.
    Hope to hear more from you, son.

    SP Out!

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  6. This story is heart breaking and enraging.

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  7. The action by the police was totally unacceptable. There should be murder charges brought against them. This man risked his life for us. Now he lies dead for no good reason. The man had every right to defend his home against a perceived break in. FBI must investigate this and so should the military.
    The right approach to dealing with suspects is to wait until they are out and arrest them. Then take them to court and have a hearing. Innocent until proven guilty. Not shoot first and then prevent medics from helping the poor wounded man.

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  8. What is the major malfunction down on Arizona over the last year? This state is losing its ever loving MIND! Its increasingly a hostile police state. Now they execute Former Marines? REALLY? This marine served two tours in Iraq and was sleeping with his wife and kids after a work shift at the Asarco copper mine when these creeps kicked in his door and executed him in cold blood! He was LATINO THOUGH! Perhaps they couldn't read his PAPERS in the dark! By the way NO DRUGS were found! This Latino War Veteran died in less than 60 seconds total elapsed time as the night vision camera video tells! Ask yourself this. If you (half asleep) would have done better? I would have probably tried to protect my house too not knowing who just kicked in my door in the middle of the night! I guess I would have fared about the same as this Marine. Now. Dont just shake your head! Do something! email your Governor, Senators and Congressmen and tell them to insist there be charges. Here is a link to find your elected officials emails: http://www.congress.org/congressorg/officials/congress/?lvl=C I feel Arizona is increasingly an all to hostile place to even visit.

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  9. There may be some investigating done by some federal agencies now that the story has gone national, but if Eric Holder has anything to do with it i seriously doubt that anything will be accomplished. For one thing, Jose was not black; second he was a Veteran (aka domestic terrorist); and third, the regime will go to any extent to protect their tool Dupnik.
    Moreover, the liberal media, especially the liberal Arizona media, is boasting the smearing campaign that the lawyer for the Sheriff Office has embarked on against Jose Guerena. Conveniently, the name of Dipstick Dupnik is never mentioned in any report about this tragedy, while all kind of insignificant conjecturing is being done to trash Jose's image and memory.
    And yeah, good luck trying to get anything accomplished by the politicians, unless Col. Allen West gets involved!
    Thank you all for the comments!
    SP Out!

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  10. For what on the simple face of it--i..e.your report given here (and yes, I know there is always some back-story behind the simple facts) seems to be another swat-team, middle of the night murder with a drug-enforcement pretext---- which is NOT AT ALL UNCOMMON in USA, seems to me you are kinda STRETCHING out there a bit to suggest that some kind of LIBERAL POLITICAL AGENDA is involved here, Semperpapa.
    Makes one wonder if you know more than you are saying about this particular case or, alternately, if you have some possibly extraneous 'political blame' agenda beyond the barbarism of these swat-team drug- suspicion murders that have been more or less standard practice of US "drug enforcement" for a number of years all across this country.
    Just saying... ----J R in Texas

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  11. Well, J R, I do not have any more information on this case that it has been reported. Maybe I am stretching the liberal political agenda, but I am just an observer and I call it the way I see it.
    It was the liberals who published a report identifying returning Veterans as potential domestic terrorists.
    It is, in this case, a liberal Sheriff who is ultimately responsible for the death of this man for ordering a raid that could have been avoided.
    It is the liberal media that is trying to avoid even naming Dupnik in their reports.
    And it's a liberal lawyer who is trying to smear the name of Jose.
    My agenda is to insure the Constitutional rights of every citizen, not just of criminals. I believe it is Liberals who are bent on destroying the Constitution.
    Jose has a honorable record as a Marine and as a citizen. Nothing so far made public by the Sheriff Office indicates a justification for the actions on that morning. If evidences were found, shouldn't the public be aware of?

    And no, I do not consider every SWAT team action as barbaric. A raid on a violent career criminal with a long history is more than welcomed.

    SP Out!

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  12. They killed a Marine?!? And then tried to cover it up? Wow, cops are totally out of control in the USA.

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  13. This no knock gestapo type invasion is now legal in Indiana. The cops dont need a warrant any more . They can kick in your door in the middle of the night and shoot you dead .If they give the bogus claim they were in fear for their lives because your hands were under the covers. These Nazis think they are above the law and you as a citizen of America should lick their boots after they violate your rights. I post as anonymous only because of fear of retribution from these Nazis

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  14. From a "30,000 ft view", it appears the marine stood down and the police didn't or there would be at least two dead police officers. They came through a choke point, easy targets... Once identified as police, weapon went to safe. Police saw weapon and fired. Incompetence at its best and now a dead marine.

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